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BEN WILLIAMS VS. VON HEMMLING

Spring 2004

Von Hemmling

responding members: Mike Snowden (M) Jim Mcintyre (J) Trevor Tremaine (T)

WHERE DID THE NAME ORIGI­NATE AND HOW?

M: If you put cotton in your ears and have a near­by friend say "Don Hen­ley," you will get a pretty good idea. Jim has the full story.

I NEVER KNOW WHERE YOUR MUSIC IS GOING, BOTH BE­TWEEN SONGS AND WITHIN THEM, AND-DESPITE HAVING SEEN YOU GUYS A FEW TIMES­I'M EVER SURPRISED BY THE SEGUEWAYS AND TIME CHANG­ES. THEY DON'T MAKE SENSE, BUT THEY WORK. HAVE I JUST BEEN REALLY FUCKED UP? OR, IF YOU AGREE, COULD YOU CLUE ME INTO THE SONGWRIT­ING PROCESS?

J: Well I've written all the songs so far. the arrange­ments the band plays are more or less rigorous. Some songs such as make your dad insane we're basically playing my com­position while other songs are very collaborative es­pecially orchestration. The performance improv has been dictated by a fancy set list which defines the placement and key of the improvised segues. M: Within our shorter, more self contained songs, there is usually a great deal of structural play. Many songs have codas, which I think is a great way to introduce a new theme into a song without go­

ing for a more traditional bridge/solo/chorus set up. Some songs don't even have choruses. Struc­tural play allows us to play simple melodies and progressions to a slightly unsettling effect. Live seg­ueways are usually impro­vised under the direction of a chart. This chart basi­cally maps key changes between the self contained songs, as well as direc­tions for mood changes along the length of the set. It also does other, secret things that I really can't go into here.

T: Jim brings in a tune, and sometimes the parts he writes for us are fairly rigid. Other times, it's a bit of a group effort. It seems like the drum parts are always pretty wide open, or based on a really lose rhythmic idea. As far as segueways, etc., we're all big jam geeks, and so im­provisation comes natural­ly. We work it into the sets based on different musical cues, so that it doesn't become the central focus... you know, noodling.

IF ALL CIVILIZATION EXCEPT MUSICIANS WERE WIPED OUT BY AN ALL-POWERFUL, MUSIC-LOV­ING WARLORD-DEITY-MONSTER NAMEDVERNON AND YOUR SURVIVAL IN THIS NEW WORLD WERE BASED UPON SATISFY­ING VERNON WITH JUST ONE OF YOUR SONGS, WHICH SONG WOULD YOU PLAY TO ENSURE YOUR SURVIVAL?

J: That's a pretty good al­legory for the music biz. I'd obviously resist and suffer

the consequences.

M: We have a song about the fear of poor sexual performance. I think it's beautiful. I know that at least Trevor would survive (based on his DRUM per­formance), and that would be good enough. T: I don't know, none of them have names. There's this straight up jazz-fusion/Steely Dan tune we've been doing lately that blows my mind every time. I practice it whenever I sit down at a drum set. Like, every note and every beat is pre-med­itated and scored exactly. It's my favorite Von Hem­mling song so far, and when Jim played it for me last spring, it pretty much jump-started my re-inter­est in pop music. I almost typed `poop music.'

WHAT IS SUCCESS? HAVE YOU ACHIEVED IT? IF NOT, BY WHAT FEAT WILL YOU ACHIEVE IT?.... LET'S QUALIFY: HAVE YOU REACHED SUCCESS WHEN YOU RELEASE A RECORD? PLAYA GOOD SHOW? PERHAPS WHEN YOU DON'T NEED ANOTHER JOB AND CAN SOLELY SUPPORT YOURSELF THROUGH CREATION/ PERFORMANCE? OR, IS IT ART FOR THE SAKE OF ART? SOME­THING ELSE?

J: I'm obsessed with music thats the motivation. Success is submission to art and denial of self doubt. And patience. Suc­cess is. patience. M: For me, making art for the sake of art will suf­fice, but success is not acheived until I can sup­port myself financially playing music. I do believe, though, that playing music would become much more like a bad job if art were removed from the process.

T: Success... dunno. I guess just mastering ensemble playing, and being involved with something that is great and unlike anything else any of us have ever done. Recording, having a t-shirt, etc. Every show is a new peak, for me.

Do YOU GUYS PLAN TO RELEASE SOMETHING SOON? IF NOT, PLAN ON IT ANYWAY AND TELL ME IT'S A CONCEPT RECORD....

J: We're recording now. The record's about four dreamers who rock.

M: We are working on an exploratory piece- call it a decollatage a tete- in which we approach the dialogue between the fibonacci sequence and the circle of fifths. We started by painting John blue and then go­ing out for a bite to eat. Expect to see it out last week. T: We've recorded a ton of stuff. We're a concept band. The concept is `music.